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ADHD - help! Need infos.

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    Sagacity is offline Registered User
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    About ADHD

    Hi Valencia,

    Yeah, we people are hopeless, especially those professionals, as we enjoy labelling so much. ADHD is a label, so as Depressive Disorder, etc. Professionals like doctors and psychologists are meant to treat people. So, if we don't label, we don't know what to do with other people's lives. But the truth is, we know little about our psychological system. Mental and developmental issues, to most of the extent, are still mysteries. We psychologists are just trying our best to have the best guess.

    My sons are very good at sports. Guess they have inherited my athlete genes. My academic performance wasn't good at all. But I'm persuing a Master degree in psychology and hopefully PhD in clinical psy in the future. It's not because I'm smart that I go for a PhD. There's another quality in my personality to keep me going: persistent. And the most important thing is my mom never ever hinders me to follow my interests or chooses my life paths for me. That's my baseline to raise my sons.

    I really enjoy talking to you all. :missingto

    Quote Originally Posted by Valencia
    Hi, Sagacity,

    Thanks for your explanation on ADHD. However, I've always had doubts about this term. My brother and I were hyperactive when we were children, and so is my daughter. I see hyperactivity as a healthy sign. I see hyperactivity as a disease unaccepted by our modern civilised world. As for attention deficit, it is a problem in terms of education. As long as the children are obedient and quiet at school, no one will suspect them of ADHD, even if they do poorly in exams. For those who are both disruptive and poor in exams, people have a term to blame. If a child is hyperactive, why not train him to be an athlete instead of asking him to sit still? If a child can't sit still, I'll blame the school syllabus and the teacher instead of ADHD, especially in HK!

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    About Labelling

    Hi, Sagacity,

    Nice to talk to you. I can see you are an understanding mom. I am blushing since you called me a loving mom. :missingto

    No offence to the professionals. My objection to labelling is the consequences if misused by laymen, e.g. paediatricians, educators and parents. Parents used to think their children were naughty or stupid, if they are diagnosed with ADHD then they can blame it's a medical condition and can look for a cure. I am just worried with the misdiagnoses with normal children, and the worries they bring to their parents.

    I just wish we had more better educators and better systems.

    Good luck to your studies!

    Glad to talk to everybody. :missingto

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    Have you heard of the Myers-Briggs Personality Indicator? It is a personality test used widely to help with team building and personal growth in the work place. It splits everyone into 16 different personality types.

    There is a theory that ADAH and ADD are more common amongst certain types although some research I’ve read says ADD/ADHD/LD seems to occur in all MBTI types, certain preferences exacerbate the problem. I also think that certain types as children are more likely to be considered a “problem child” especially with the child expectations we have in our culture here in Hong Kong.

    There is a nice introductory article, MBTI Temperament and ADD at http://borntoexplore.org/addtemp.htm

    If you are interested to learn more about this I run a workshop called Mothering Styles which will help you discover your own type (this is a necessary first step to understanding your children’s types) and how that affects the way you mother your children.

    I found the book Nurture by Nature by Paul D. Tieger and Barbara Barron-Tieger, http://www.personalitytype.com/nbn/index.html very useful in understanding type in children.

    And also the book Do What You Are by the some people, http://www.personalitytype.com/dwya/index.html Although this book talks about careers I was really worried about my son, who is now 15, because he always leaves everything until the last moment and then usually runs out of time to do it. This book allowed me to see that the traits I worry about in him are exactly the same traits that are going to earn him his salary when he is working.

    Best wishes,
    SARAH
    2548-7636
    [email protected]

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    Personality

    Psychologists are still trying hard to pull everything together to understand human personality. Sorry to say it, but classifying people in personality types is a bit out-dated. (BTW, its another type of labelling. ) Today, the best model is the Control Theory by Carver and Scheier. Those personality traits just reveal the possibility or tendency of our behaviour. There are more factors to be considered, like situations and circumstances. We do behave differently in front of different people and in different situations and circumstances. And we learn too. Our ways of thinking and behaviour can change over time. Well... psychologists still do not have much of a clue how our personality is developed. It's still quite a messy field.

    Yet, please do not be discouraged if you love the personality tests. I love that too. Knowing some of other people's personality traits help us a lot from a social perspective. Just please do not treat those classifications as blueprints of human personality. Afterall, these are all theories and we do not have a clue whether that's a truth or not. According to my professor, the best theory is the one which can help you ask the right question.


    Quote Originally Posted by barbwong_130
    Have you heard of the Myers-Briggs Personality Indicator? It is a personality test used widely to help with team building and personal growth in the work place. It splits everyone into 16 different personality types.

    There is a theory that ADAH and ADD are more common amongst certain types although some research I’ve read says ADD/ADHD/LD seems to occur in all MBTI types, certain preferences exacerbate the problem. I also think that certain types as children are more likely to be considered a “problem child” especially with the child expectations we have in our culture here in Hong Kong.

    There is a nice introductory article, MBTI Temperament and ADD at http://borntoexplore.org/addtemp.htm

    If you are interested to learn more about this I run a workshop called Mothering Styles which will help you discover your own type (this is a necessary first step to understanding your children’s types) and how that affects the way you mother your children.

    I found the book Nurture by Nature by Paul D. Tieger and Barbara Barron-Tieger, http://www.personalitytype.com/nbn/index.html very useful in understanding type in children.

    And also the book Do What You Are by the some people, http://www.personalitytype.com/dwya/index.html Although this book talks about careers I was really worried about my son, who is now 15, because he always leaves everything until the last moment and then usually runs out of time to do it. This book allowed me to see that the traits I worry about in him are exactly the same traits that are going to earn him his salary when he is working.

    Best wishes,
    SARAH
    2548-7636
    [email protected]

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    More about labelling

    Hi Valencia,

    Thank you for your compliment.

    Well, I think even professionals are sometimes hopeless on labelling and... I'm trying to be one of them. :alien:


    Quote Originally Posted by Valencia
    Hi, Sagacity,

    Nice to talk to you. I can see you are an understanding mom. I am blushing since you called me a loving mom. :missingto

    No offence to the professionals. My objection to labelling is the consequences if misused by laymen, e.g. paediatricians, educators and parents. Parents used to think their children were naughty or stupid, if they are diagnosed with ADHD then they can blame it's a medical condition and can look for a cure. I am just worried with the misdiagnoses with normal children, and the worries they bring to their parents.

    I just wish we had more better educators and better systems.

    Good luck to your studies!

    Glad to talk to everybody. :missingto

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    Recommended psychologist

    Hi,

    I am actually surprised that you were able to get your child tested at such a young age. Normally testing will only begin at ages 5-6 as this is when ADHD symptoms start to show because more is expected of a child of this age.

    I can recommend a psychologist who specialises in ADHD both for adults and children. Her name is Jadis Blurton and she has a practice in LKF (Therapy Associates Limited). Her website is www.talhk.com. She does a thourough exam/test with the child to diagnose the problem.

    I would also recommend to get several evaluations to be sure that the diagnosis is 100% correct.

    I hope this helps.

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