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Pollution a problem for infants/babies?

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    sherwes is offline Registered User
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    Jun 2007

    Hi Zeppo,
    We use the IQ Air filters and find them really good. They are frighteningly expensive though.

    We bought ours second hand from a friend but I am told that if you want to buy a new one the sales consultants will come to your home and do a demostration (sort of a before and after measurement of the level of air pollution in your home). The sales consultant can also provide you with the results of the IQ Air against other major compeditors. Of course, the person giving you this info is trying to sell you the air filter so they present a rosy picture. I am not sure where you can obtain any independant testing info - perhaps someone else can suggest??

    You can buy them at Bumps to Babes. Try to join their loyalty programme first so that you'll get a discount on this big $$ purchase.

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    Zeppo is offline Registered User
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    Thanks, Sherwes, for the info.

    Anyone else have experience with any brand of air purifier, pro or con?

  3. #43
    MLBW Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Neha View Post
    I just feel all those people who complain all the time about HK not having enough nature things to do for kids or the pollution and are basically pessimistic people. I believe if u have chosen to live in a place u must try and find what is good about that place instead of pointing all negative aspects of that place and comparing it to all the other places that u come from or u have lived.
    I do have my opinions about Hong Kong but I wouldn't call myself a basically pessimistic person. My whole objective in pointing out what I did was to give a different perspective than what I usually get in HK--people are in this city for various reasons. Some came here by choice, but others (like me) are not just here by choice. We weren't transferred here from our company or chose to move country because we loved the city--we ended up here and until financial things improve we will still be here. And I don't think I'm the only one in this situation. And that is why I pointed out that we plan to leave as soon as we can. For us, Hong Kong isn't a "wonderful place"--so I just wanted to add that view. And it is only natural to compare one's present abode to previous abodes (as so many in this post have done--before and after me).

  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreaY View Post
    I am extremely curious, why on earth are you staying in HK? There must be something particularly attractive to you here that you are not telling us about, one that outweighs all the cons of letting your children live in such a terrible hole. Cos if I felt the same way, I'd have uprooted my family and be living the clean, healthy, kids' friendly life to which I have been acustomed.

    Also, there are some who like having helpers and some who do not, it's just unfair to be sarcastic and attack another saying it's a privilege for rich people who live in gated communities. Please just take a good look around and you will see there are many local families who are not rich nor live in big flats in nice areas that have hired helpers to help out. It can't be very nice to be living in very cramped quarters for the helpers, but that's another thread altogether...
    Hi Andrea. I didn't mean to sound harsh in my previous posts--I just passionately dislike living in Hong Kong for several reasons. This city was fine to visit and stay in for a short-time but as a long-term home I do not like living here--especially when I was pregnant (having smoke blown in my face every day, never being offered a seat on public transport) and with a small baby (lack of handi-cap accessible ramps, rudeness of HK people). As a person without a baby I probably could have dealt with the pollution and such but when my son has to deal with it along with many other things--then it's a totally different thing.

    And I believe my concerns and opinion are valid--just as much as those who love this city. I think that people who don't have similar concerns either aren't aware of the problem because they were never confronted with it (had a car so didn't have to worry about public transport while pregnant etc.) or are just really downplaying the obvious.

    I do think that a lot of foreigners in this city are insulated from the realities of living in the city--so they feel it's a much rosier place overall than it is. Sure, if I had the option of living in some of the wealthy estates mentioned on here, I might feel the same. But as it is, I live a quite ordinary life as I live in the middle of a local HK family in lower-middle class HK standards. I just want to offer my view because I don't think it is represented on these boards and I think a lot of people are out of touch with the "ordinary folk" out here, that's all.

    As I said earlier in this thread, my husband and I plan to move our family as soon as we can afford to. We are in our 20s and haven't "arrived" financially. We had a baby before we had "all our ducks in a row" and time will tell if that was for the best or not.

    For us, living in HK was not something we planned out--we landed here because we had nowhere else to go at the time. We have felt very much like refugees in this city--which gives me a new understanding of what the many asylum seekers in HK might feel like (although I can't fully understand). We haven't found it to be particularly welcoming--especially since we don't live the way that most foreigners we know live. If I had my way, I would have already left Hong Kong and moved to an environment I felt was healthier--both socially and environmentally--but that will come in time.

    I wasn't talking about having a domestic helper being associated with living in a gated community in my original posts if you read them correctly. That is simply not true and I know it because many of the "ordinary" local folks also have domestic helpers--it is a part of how HK runs and I understand that. We also had a domestic helper helping me when my back gave out after I gave birth and I literally couldn't walk--she helped us for about 3 months--but once I was recovered enough, we had to put an end to that luxury because it wasn't affordable.

    I was talking about the lack of accessible grassy places for children to play. (There are some parks, but as another person mentioned--many of them are not really accessible unless you have a car to get there). The comment about gated communities--I said that I haven't been inside too many so I don't know for sure if any of them have parks and grassy places for children to play. That was my comment.

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    Peggy&Tony is offline Registered User
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    Overly pessimistic!

    if you are thinking of moving to Hong Kong, then try to stay in the eastern areas of the new territories. I live in Sha Tin, which isn't great. But, because I work on the island, I can clearly see the difference in pollution levels. Commuting back and forth to work, you can easily see the blanket of haze that covers the western areas of the new territories and Hong Kong island is so bad that you can't even make out the landmark IFC2. Alternatively, at the same time, looking in the opposite directions to the peaks of the eastern new territories, you can clearly make out the hills and blue skies. It really is interesting to see the difference at the same time. Just imagine brown clouds shrouding the west and clear blue skies over the east. This is the reason so many expats prefer Sai Kung. My recommendation would be do accept the commute and live in Sai Kung/Clearwater bay where the air is much cleaner and the environment is very nice.

    Visit the HK observatory for the statistics on pollution. The worst areas are Mong Kok and Causeway Bay. From experience, I can tell you to avoid Happy Valley, a very popular expat area, as it is nestled in a valley directly behind Causeway Bay.

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    Matty is offline Registered User
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    For anybody interested in doing something about HK's pollution problem, check out this website and click on the Air Quality Forum.

    Once again the goverment has organised a public forum on a weekday, with very little notice!

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    Neha is offline Banned
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    The Environmental Protection Department is planning to present its new air quality objectives (AQOs) to the public at an open forum on Friday 20th March (in the afternoon). This is very short notice, which will make it difficult for many people to come, especially as it is during business hours. So please try to hold this time slot open now if you plan to

    It is understood that EPD’s The intention is to gauge the public’s reaction to the new AQOs before submitting the draft report to the Government. This creates a golden opportunity to show the Government how seriously we take air pollution and its threat to our health. So please go if you can, and please pass the message on to as many other as you can. Our objective is to give EPD the highest level of support for the highest air quality standards

    The meeting will be held in the Exhibition Hall of the Hong Kong Productivity Council in Kowloon Tong. Our objective is to fill this venue to overflowing with as wide a cross-section of the community as possible.

    Right now the details have been agreed, but not confirmed. They will appear on the EPD website at the following address:

    At present we do not know what exactly EPD and their consultant will propose, but we do know that they will appear before the LegCo Subcommittee on Improving Air Quality at 10:45 on !9th March. Any papers for this meeting will be posted on the LegCo website, here:
    (If these links do not open, please cut and paste directly into your browser.) You can register to attend the LegCo meeting by contacting LegCo on 2869 9399. If seats are full
    please contact us at info@civic as we may try to have this hearing shifted to a larger hall if it is available.

    Finally, please share this news with as many friends/neighbours and colleagues as possible

    We will also keep you updated as we discover more information.

    Mike Kilburn
    Civic Exchange

  8. #48
    MLBW Guest

    To Peggy & Tony--I am not being overly pessimistic. I am being straight forward and honest about the true severity of pollution in HK. Another note--not everyone living in this city has the choice or budget to move to a cleaner/nicer place to run away from the pollution or try to minimize it. And I don't think that clean air is a luxury that only those with a certain amount of money should be able to afford.

    Neha, thank you for posting the information for the forum. I am in the process of reserving my seat. If any of you do attend, I will see you there.

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